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EDIT: Note.
THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION THREAD. IF ANYONE THINK THAT I'M BLAMING SOMEONE'S RELIGION OR ANY PERSON HERE. THEY ARE WRONG. EVEN I DON'T THINK JAPANESE GOVERNMENT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. ITS SIMPLY AN ACT OF A GROUP AND THIS THREAD IS SOLE REASON TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH MY OTHER FELLOW MUSLIMS TO STOP SUPPORTING THIS COMPANY BY PLAYING RESIDENT EVIL WHICH BASHING THEIR RELIGION.

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Its been a long time ago.. probably more than 5/6 months.. i received a email.. which had some images from resident evil 4 game.. (i dont play games) i was very shocked because that were a door of final villain room in the game and that door shape was the same as our holy sacred door "Omar bin khatab radi allah anhu" in madinah munawara.

i thought i will also spread this message on different forums.. so our users stop playing this game and supporting game company products. we have very right to protest.. but unfortunately i totally forget about that email..

today i accidentally visit a blog and read a post.. and now i'm going to share this with you..

i know there are not alot of muslim guys on mt but i really hope everyone will share the same point of view. which i had.

I Want Capcom game company remove these images and stop doing anti-islamic activities.

Who gave authority to anyone to disrespect any person without any reason? and more than a Person Our Prophet (peace be upon him) who had the most high personality after Allah in the whole islamic world..

I ask to anyone who's disagree with my protest.. if someone blasphemous to your father? Do you not get angry? and then a person who's above than any other to you in the whole world?

We muslims respect other religions and islam is a religion of peace. We muslims and islamic education do not support any terrorist or terrorism activities. the people who are using the name of islam in terrorist activities actually they are the enemies of islam and for that reason pakistani government fighting against them since last 7/8 years and all pakistani nation are supporting our army.

here is the actual reason why i make this topic... please read it carefully before making any comment.


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Source: 1400ah.wordpress.com/2009/12/26/resident...nti-islamic-motives/

Motives” is probably not the best term for what you are going to find in this post, but on a cold winter day, that’s about the best that I could come up with, without giving an outright impression of ** YACT ** (Yet Another Conspiracy Theory). I am growing increasingly fond of unraveling the mysterious world of conspiracy theories and I owe my fervor to the friends who are so very keen to forward even the most far-fetched ideas – theories if you will.

This time around, it’s the digital world of computer based entertainment, aka computer games. In particular, the fourth version of the PC-based super-hit Resident Evil series. A survival-horror game based on the stereotypical formula of biological hazards – viruses, zombies and now cults. In a nutshell, Resident Evil 4’s story is a rescue mission for the american president’s daughter who is kidnapped by a cult group named “Los Illuminados”

Los Illuminados or Las Illuminados, should you know is Spanish, and therefore enemies in the game speak Spanish (only the lowly ganados [farmers]).

Equation 1: The “region” is Spain or “Spanish”

“Los Illuminado” means “The Alight”. Check this translate.google.com/?langpair=es|en|Las%20Illuminado#es|en|Los%20Illuminado

“Alight” is an adjective that means “Lighted Up”. Check this www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Alight

Equation 2: Los Illuminados means “The Illuminated!”

The Illuminati? … (this should add a grain of salt to the theory)

As evidence I have uploaded some screenshots from actual game-play that were the most relevant. If anyone is interested in knowing, except for the first three all are from chapter 4-1 of the game. The first three are from chapter 2-3. You can also take a look at the walkthrough of the relevant portion of the game here

Illuminados Pendant From Resident Evil 4


The Sketch Reminds Of The Spanish INQUISITION Of Muslims and Jews


It's a Religion from this Region!


'The Door' in Chapter 4-1


Closeup of 'The Door'


Another Closeup of 'The Door'


So much for the outside, now let’s see what’s inside the room. As soon as you enter “The Door”, a cut-scene plays and you are confronted with a lowly villain who disappear through a door. The objective in the game afterwards, is to retrieve a set of grails, one of which is “The Holy Grail” – “The King’s Grail”.

Is this Mary's Picture Inside the Room entered by 'The Door'?


Holy Grail in Resident Evil 4


The King's Grail from Resident Evil 4


None of this would have had any significance had it not been for what I call “The Door”. Just in case you haven’t figured out already and to make things crystal clear; have a look at these pictures now

Omar bin Khattab Door of Masjid Nabwi Madina


Game-art Superimposed on the Real


Side-by-side Comparison of Game-art and Real


After applying the Insignia


Here is one possible interpretation of the cryptic symbolism

Start with the most prominent and irrefutable evidence that CAPCOM used the image of the gate of the Holy mosque of Medina – the second most sacred thing on earth for the Muslims. This alone classifies as an abuse and disrespectful enough that CAPCOM should apologize for such an act. But this isn’t going to happen because we already know what happened of the Danish cartoon controversy.

Using “The Door” as the pivot point of the conspiracy theory, it becomes apparent why the region is Spanish and why there is so much emphasis on “religion from this region”. Muslims fits the description, “A religious group that had deep roots in this region long ago.” Even if they call them “Los Illuminados”, I consider that a failed attempt to divert the attention by throwing in a too obvious to be true reference that resolves to “The Illuminati”. Interestingly, the sketch underneath the writing on the document appears to be that of the 15th century INQUISITION of Muslims and Jews in Spain by the Christians. You can see someone set ablaze and two men dressed as Arabs.

Keep chasing the Villain “Ramon Salazar”, till you reach “The Door” on chapter 4-1, which is probably the most cryptic chapter in the whole game. To give you an idea, let me use appropriate terms where possible. You enter the “OMAR bin Khattab” door of the mosque of Madina to confront the villain “RAMOn Salazar” (reverse nOMAR – might this be coincidence?). Inside the room there are relics of Christianity, three pictures of what appears to be Mary (pbuh). You are supposed to find the esteemed artifact of Christianity “The Holy Grail”, the grail used by Jesus Christ (pbuh) in his last supper. If all that is a mere fluke, it’s got to be the most artistic one that I have ever seen.

Finally, in a cut-scene before Salazar is destroyed at last, there is a bizarre line by the hero “This is no ritual – it’s terrorism” Considering what has already happened on preceding chapters it should ring a few bells – the fashionable term these days used by the media to abuse Islam and Muslims.

If these aren’t enough tangents of prejudice towards Islam then how else can you explain all that? So many symbolic elements dispersed throughout the game! Game level-design is such a demanding and well-planned task that it is impossible to consider that by a shear stroke of luck/coincidence the items of the game happened to exhibit symbolic meaning. Besides the fact that the color-scheme of the door does not go with the rest of the elements in the room and the immaculate fusion of the “Los Illuminados” insignia over the gate demand a lot of deliberate effort.

STILL SKEPTIC?

A prototype from RE4’s development program branched off and became the game series – “Devil May Cry”. Search for “Devil may cry” on this page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_4
Door of Kaa'ba used in Devil May Cry 3

Door of Kaa'ba used in Devil May Cry 3

In version 3 of DMC, the holy gate of Kaa’ba (The House of ALLAH), the most sacred artifact on earth for Muslims, is used as a gate to a place infested with demons. Don’t believe me? See this
Watch full cut-scene at



Door of Kaa'ba used in Devil May Cry 3


Same ORGANIZATION, same TEAM, same MINDSET, same MOTIVES!

WTF...i tried to reply and it created another topc instead....LOL

Edit : Here my answer about these stuff

I understand your pain with these affairs even though it is seamlessly of a bad issues coming from a game, movies, music and so even anime, i just want to add and not in a bad way that we have to see games, anime, manga, music, even the satanist stuff as they are and only mean to be and not the way the content of such is meant to be for or in base of( i mean example satanist people, ok we who don't believe in they stuff tend to brand it as bad even the people are bad...why? dunno, but in the overall case it is just a plain error , yes you may say it isn't my religion or it doesn´t have to do with me!, but after all it is just a game that didn´t mean to content stuff to be used that way, the same happen with the anime critics in the pokemon/dragon ball z times, see why lot of country banned it..., this case sound more and more of close minded issues than something very serious to go against to...you heard of resident evil 5 and the racist stuff people from Africa were launching against, so now it is with white people and what¿?no objection at all¿? aren't white people a race..., you see what they did with devil my cry 1 and using our god called Jesus in between, it is not that me a believer who play games is agree with, if not, i just see how all the different stuff are meant to be, and this time is just a game...a game that only function in base of a simplistic formula for final result of the further enjoyment for these individuals playing such, still i understand you right there, even more knowing you don´r play games.

Really i have passed through this and doing what you are doing doesn't seem the best way to carry your opinion over these matters, if it were something global -(meaning with this and this happening here not only happen with your religion)- that convey the total centralization of your religion giving base to the game as a whole, would be of more of to worry about, but expect this happening in different adaptation of game of the future, anime as well, and if that would stop you of enjoying such game, manga, anime for this then i´m sorry, just love your religion as it is, the only opinion that matter is yours, if i say i don´t believe in your god and you in mine neither, would it be of some kind of issue in between¿? doesn't sound like right!!! so just don´t jump ahead this kind of issues, sound more of people trying to downgrade such great game, just like demonic stuff in pokemon and animes.

Edit: give me quite the thought you dont like metal music¿? if you hear several of black, gothic, doom metal you will understand my position of open minded person.

This topic is really not about... "this is not your religion or your religion is not mine".. or this is only game and same thing happening in animes, movies or other games...

Our question is why this is happening.. i'm not saying this is a global war issue.. or we should do the same thing against them or whatever... but still we cant just keep quite about blasphemous to our religion..

and its the same to you.. If anyone disrespect your religion and you do the protest.. I'm with you... and moreover We muslims believe on Jesus (peace be upon him) as a prophet of Allah.. In holy quran you can find alot of versus related to Hazrat Eisa or Jesus (peace be upon him)...

This is certainly not about game or any stuff.. its a clear act against a muslim religious emotions..

And what such a great game? i don't damn care about anime, movie or game such thing. which disrespect my religion...

Oh i didn´t know you believe in jesus, quite some didn't even know about him.

But My second opinion would be just Don´t give much thought about a simple made by human game which i assured you it didn´t have all these stuff based on your religion to made it the way it is now and how you are displaying it, i played this game when i was in 2 vach/highschool and being kinda accord´d with you, as i just said up there, I´m such of it doesnt matter if you insult my religion, i really don't give a fly to what others but me say about, guess it is just the way i believe in my creator.

Anyway all my regards, anything you may need just ask it over about this.

Well.. then.. You're different than me about religion..
We love our religion.. its a difference of feelings/emotions.. so its normal you wont understand.

No, it isn't that i don't understand it, i quite understand it, but the difference in religion in both country is colossal, your is an unit, mine is a divide in several path/part/way/stuff/affairs religions. catholic, evangelic, cristians, believers, or just lovers. any saying different stuff of the bibble which certainly you may know, i pertain to one as well just that i dont give much importance since as you read, for me this is just a joke, guess your path is just plain different, which really scare me jejeje.

It's all a bit off topic but i feel like writting
Ah religion and Politics it will always be controversial.
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Every religion has the same idea to some extent and it's very simple.
You don't take away something from someone or something unless it's your responsibility.

E.g.
You can discipline your children
you deal with criminal activity ( I discuss right and wrong later).
You don't destroy the environment.
People are free to think what they like.
People are free to do what they want according to (You don't take away something from someone or something unless it's your responsibility.)
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All societies that are controlled by governments will sacrifice the individual for the whole unfortunately.
All countries have money = power problem
Corporate policy denies peoples rights(anything that goes against the corporate)This is the most dangerous!

I will say something broad and general here. I must.
Men and womens rights should be equal.
Any institution that that denies those rights will be excluded by a society with more rights.
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Also the word rights as in a persons rights is different than the idea of right and wrong.
The idea of right and wrong is very limiting and narrow minded. Something wrong for me is when is does not go with this (You don't take away something from someone or something unless it's your responsibility.) idea. But in every situation seeing from someones perspective you may have grown up to be that person and taken the same action.(do something wrong)

Another thing I will add is about the word "why?" when used in questions like 'why me?' 'why am I here?' 'why did this happen' etc
in that context asking why is looking for justification. Which is pointless. The questions to ask are more like 'what happened' 'what am I here'.... ask what not why. It is much harder but will give you a greater view of life

All in all what is the point of messing with another religion? Their is none.
ALL religions change their point of view over time.
If the game goes against what you believe and you believe you shound not play it, don't.
All religions have been messed with in some way. Comedians, movies, anime etc The followers of that religion and anyone can respond however they want (You don't take away something from someone or something unless it's your responsibility.)

On the subject of a God/Maker. Everything we know has a beginning and and end, a start and a finish eg the universe,matter(atomic structure), dimensions .What we call God obviously exists before this(no start no finish no beginning no end) . When you can understand what this means you will start to understand the idea of God. This is the idea of the word God.

A narrow view is the/a "God" loves you. A wider view is that a God loves/ cares for everything. The universe started from this (a place without form) and is linked to it for as long as it exists.

I will say again Corporate policy denies peoples rights(anything that goes against the corporate)This is the most dangerous! This is what most people call a conspiracy theory. WAKE UP IT IS CORPORATE POLICY.

I've been severely damaged by vaccines. CORPORATE POLICY makes sure they keep this quiet. Theirs is a simple idea. How much money do they make vs how much money they have to pay if something goes wrong. If profit is greater, they don't care. That is corporate policy.

Sorry, I just read rules:
"Disallowed: Hacking, fraud, drug related, porn and political/religious discussions even if educational."

Stop this. You guys are making fun with the rule.

I'm a Muslim and agree with Sahil, Capcom did insult Islam. Otherwise, why would they have chosen the door of our beloved Omar bin Khattab as a door of a villain.
Another thing, some manshioned anime insulting religion, can anyone name some ?

ok ok but if you get the chance watch "UFO - The Greatest Story Ever Denied"
some amazing NASA FOOTAGE and info on big corporate companies and the military.
and "Vaccination the hidden truth"

Anime warps the idea of Christianity all the time. I sure I've seen a few other religions as well. Not Islam/Muslim.

ios wrote:


I agree, in addition all jokes/ games/ movies have someone they target and usually it isn't on purpose. Although I haven't played it myself, RE4 probably didn't intend to offend anyone, and they should have included a "anything is purely coincidental clause or statement"

There is no use to insulting other religions, well so what they insulted Islam, will it reduce from what Islam is?
As Sushi Addiction said there are many instances of insult to Christianity in anime, but has it done anything to the religion?
If you believe a religion, that's ur belief, nobody can do anything, it will be what it is for you, unless you urself doubt it.

True, no religion should be insulted, it's part of human rights, but who pays attention, human right are being violated everywhere around the world, and religion is another example of it, there is no use in discussing it here, nothing will change (as long as human right are being violated)

Read what Cyrus the great king of Persia had said about religion (as part of human rights - in the first known order of human rights in history of mankind):
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great#Religion (policy of permitting religious freedom throughout his vast empire)

Ok i think there is a misunderstanding because of my little mistake.. i should have added this note on the top before.

THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION THREAD. IF ANYONE THINK THAT I'M BLAMING SOMEONE'S RELIGION OR ANY PERSON HERE. THEY ARE WRONG. EVEN I DON'T THINK JAPANESE GOVERNMENT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. ITS SIMPLY AN ACT OF A GROUP AND THIS THREAD IS SOLE REASON TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH MY OTHER FELLOW MUSLIMS TO STOP SUPPORTING THIS COMPANY BY PLAYING RESIDENT EVIL WHICH BASHING THEIR RELIGION.

i clarified this reason before in the beginning of the topic.



but some users still thinking that this is religious discussion thread. they misunderstood this topic. and if someone intend to move this topic into religious discussion.. i will not discuss.

and i also said this before. i agree with you if someone bashing you or your religion. though i don't believe what you believe. and maybe you didn't read the actual blog entry.. (becuase topic is so long ^__^) they are not only insulting Islam in Resident Evil 4 but also Christianity.

i think. this misunderstanding should be clear now.

javad Wrote


As i clear this topic actual reason. i didn't even think a lil bit that these cheap methods will reduce islam ^__^ but that doesn't mean we keep quite and don't act a little bit against them by sharing information with others.

SushiAddiction Wrote


Agree.. that what will i do if i was a player of this game and for the same reason i'm sharing these information with other fellows who're still playing. there is no other motives or benefits by posting this topic on mt or any other forum/blog etc.

I understood what you are saying from the beginning I just felt like writing some extra stuff.
...and it's obvious... You have the right to boycott anything you want if you feel the need and with many others you may make a difference with your cause. Good luck. For me I'll still go with javad on this

and you wrote

I think "i didn't even think a lil bit that these cheap methods will reduce islam" shows your faith and that is it's power.

I wish I could get enough people to boycott vaccinations and make the lies about vaccinations public.

I DID'N READ THESE
I DON'T WANT TO
AND YES I'M YALLING


i', moslim from arabic gulf (Bahrain)

Years ago there was pokemon panic
same STUPID newspaper post an artical about pokemon say that pokemon is jews and it is from israil
and pokemon ward mean = be jews
pikatch mean be jews
and other pokemons names means
heat god
heat islam
kill you mother


anther thing was a classic cartoon
futcher boy conan (80's anime have nothing with ditictev conan)
thy say it is story about phlistine and israil
WTF
Conan is israil and lana is phlistine
andlana gran father is the Masih ad-Dajjal AKA "Antichrist"
cuz he have one eye

the was talk about the martrix and lot of other movies

if we will start thnk like that we will never have the chanse to live

these ind of things make me gave up on arbic sites

so plise dont do that **** here
i love these site with not stuped talk like that



other thing

so you wan tell me that haruhi is not ant riligen
GOD is not teenage girl